Kali Yuga 2012
One of the most interesting calendar coincidences in relation to the Mayan 2012 information, is the similarity between the start dates of the last long count cycle of the Mayan system and the Hindu’s Kali Yuga. Yuga’s are vast periods of time, epoch’s that relate to the Earths journey around a cosmological central sun. The four Yuga (Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dvapara Yuga and Kali Yuga) together make up an entire world age between creation and destruction events, held to be around 4,320,000 years in total duration.
Most 21-12-2012 researchers are aware of the 3114BCE start date of the current long count cycle, less people are aware however that the Kali Yuga, a predicted era of moral decent and spiritual bleakness, began in the year 3102BCE. A startling similarity, a mere 12 years difference for systems on different sides of the planet. The Brahma Vaivarta Purana Sutra from ancient India depicts a period which has many of the failings visible in our modern society, such is the backdrop of the spiritual decline in the Kali Yuga.
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It is however a mistake for people to seek a link between the Mayan 2012 end-date and the closing of the Kali Yuga. Though their starts may have links the ends do not (although some suggest this is an error). The Kali Yuga is set to continue on for a vast period of time, at least 432,000 years, well eclipsing the 5126 years of the Mayan Long Count. Scholars from philosophies such as Buddhism, and from religions such as Brahmanist Hinduism, often discuss ages as being many millions of years long, entire vast Kalpa of time are addressed.
There is an excellent Buddhist parable that depicts visually an era of time described as an Aeon, far more effectively than a string of numbers. A teacher monk explains that an eon can be likened to the great stone mountain Meru. Once every year a man passes the mountain and lightly brushed against it a strip of the finest silk. The mountain will be completely worn away by his action well before the aeon closes.
Its worth noting that the Buddhist philosophy does not tend to hold with the idea that a time of any great Universal significance will happen in our near future, every moment carries the same inherent problems and their solutions. The only significant events predicted or prophesised are the ending the vast epochs, or the extremely intermittent arising of new Buddha’s. There have been suggestions in relation to 2012, that the next Buddha will arise at this time in a rather Judeo-Christian end of days scenario. Unfortunately anyone educated in Buddhist lore will know that it is made clear that fully enlightened Buddha’s only arise millions of years apart. Buddhism is prophesised to completely disappear during the Kali Yuga, and that during that time it will be virtually impossible for seekers to find any opportunity for spiritual realisation at all by any system known now. Only when such utter darkness has shrouded the world will another being become fully realised wholly by their own efforts, without any guidance, and become the next Buddha, named Maitreya.
The most notable discussion on the Kali Yuga by Buddhist teachers actually refers to how lucky a being is to be born as a human in such a time. To quote the master wisdom teacher Pabongka Rimpoche, “Most important of all through this physical rebirth you are able to achieve the state of Vajradhara [unification of the illusory body and great bliss] within one short lifetime in this degenerate age; otherwise it would take thee countless great aeons to achieve. Thus this rebirth is worth more than one thousand billion precious jewels.”
21-12-2012 may close a cycle of time related to consciousness change within our species, after all the Mayans were highly focussed on biological and environmental cycles. It would make sense that they had tried to do the same with psychological and spiritual forces. This would be in accordance with the great Asiatic measures of Yuga and Kulpa, as they too relate to the evolution of human consciousness. This considerably shorter cycle of the Long Count would only relate to a significant change in thought process’s however, not to a sudden total self enlightenment of the human species in totality. Even if we take into account the entire Great Year of the Galactic Alignment (26,000 years max.) it is vastly less that the periods Asiatic teachers consider necessary for super-massive consciousness upgrades.
The talk of 2012 consciousness change is by needs somewhat vague, nobody knows for sure just what might happen. That said it is wise to perhaps disregard the position which suggests suddenly every person on Earth will automatically become fully enlightened spiritual beings, ready to embrace a world of spiritual concerns, peace and compassion. It is self evident that the last time a Great Year period ended we did not have this happen, nor in prior cycles. The fact is that we are still here and not fully self realised, so we know it does not tend to happen that way. Whether perhaps some certain persons were especially effected or did somehow ascend to a higher dimension remains possible, but as stated that’s not everyone on Earth.
If this cycle is important in regards to the evolution of consciousness then its more likely that the effect is far more subtle, either an evolutionary change in our neurological system, or perhaps a general refinement of the functioning of mental energies. The advantage given would perhaps make self realisation somewhat easier only because the tools, the technology of self development, gets upgraded. If you were a psychopath on 20-12-2012 it strikes me unlikely that even this cosmic-consciousness change will cause you to become a saint in under 24hrs.
In the start of the great thinker (oddball) Nietzsche’s book, ‘Thus Spake Zarathustra’, it is stated that ‘God is dead’. Actually this concept, if widely excepted, would make more of a change to our society then any evolutionary force imaginable to us. Currently the vast majority of the planet is operating under a system of belief that a Supreme being wrote or dictated a book of rules for them to live by, all open of course to a plethora of personal interpretation. Inclusive in these system are various promised punishments or rewards dependant on obedience to the set of rules given, the old carrot and the stick to move the donkey along routine.
This abhorrent position, as discussed here in an excellent related article, means that the vast majority of the planet is incapable of helping change the orientation of the species toward an optimum direction if it contradicts something in a book. In my own library here I have copies of many spiritual texts including those of the four major theistic traditions, Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Hindusim. I have also many other books, plenty of them are extremely wise and have much to offer. If however I simply picked one and said I would only act if my actions were guided by that book that would doubtless lead to great problems.
Taking guidance from each book is only helpful up to a point, its my own mind and spirit that must be constant and able for the task of self realisation and environmental improvements. If before I can act I must consult a book, clearly there is something wrong with me, I should be able to do the optimum action immediately with no conscious thought whilst functioning at my optimum ability. Compassion should become my very nature at every moment and guide every action.
The best thing that could happen on 2012 might just be that people would put down their various books for a moment and take a long hard searching look within themselves. Before we rush headlong into a new period of economic and religious wars, we should surely pause for deep reflection. There are many questions I would want each to ask themselves first.
Do we really want a world split into two halves, one mainly poor, downtrodden and subverted by religious fanatics, and the other wealthy but ruthlessly controlled by New World Order dictators?
Wouldn’t our children be thankful to us for not having allowed that to happen?
Would the creative force that makes up the very fibre of all existence, that is the material of our core spirits, need to write an instruction manual for life, like some cheaply paid Ikea furniture manufacturer?
Most of the worlds great spiritual teachers have made it clear that every human has the ability to better themselves and raise themselves to the level we might call ‘saintly’. Yet each is also unique and will requires different focus, efforts, and forms of assistance from others. The only absolute equality and connection between each person is the actual energy of consciousness on which they run and from which they draw their ‘self existence’. To discover how they should then best proceed they should not ask someone else or read a certain text, first they should just try to take a period of reflection and get to grips with whom they are and what issues they need to work on.
This process means that if they then go for help or read advisory material, they can then refine from it the part useful to them in particular rather than being treated to a ‘one size fits all’ solution. That structure may work for cheap T-Shirt manufacturers, but seems woefully inefficient for the enlightenment of an eternal spiritual being constructed of pure consciousness energy.
When we allow books to instruct us in doing something wrong, perhaps even evil, we cant blame the books. If I subjugate a women or take someone as a slave I know it is wrong without picking a book up of my shelf. I don’t need to find a psalm or Sutra to know that killing and stealing are grossly unfair and cruel. Even the mundane ups and downs of my day are filled with actions that I am aware of being either optimal or substandard. I find it naïve to believe that whilst a mob stones someone to death for blasphemy or, rapes someone because they are seen as a lower caste, that the individuals are not all aware that they are in fact in the wrong. If a God were to state otherwise then it would have to be a wicked and evil entity, one to be exorcised by the might of our compassion. Whilst humans cut each other to ribbons or apply mind numbingly cruel tortures to one another, they speak about there adherence to the rules of some divine, loving and compassionate God. To me this is greatly unsettling, when we begin to call quite evil actions ‘good’, then we are in real trouble.
If I could wish for anything to happen on the 21-12-2012 it would simply be that everyone one of us for a moment dropped any external guiding principles from our minds, both religious and social rules. Then just sat quietly and analysed what it means to be alive, a human, compassionate, and a seeker of happiness. Before picking up any of the old ways they could first bring themselves up to speed and better understand these basic guiding forces. We are all here together in this great web we call life, we are all in human form, each of us desires happiness and all would be happier if everyone was compassionate.
Having realised that situation we could then observe that even when no other is doing an action that would be causing us harm, we can still lack lasting happiness. Finally there would be no ability to avoid the obvious cause of our fluctuating emotional states, that its all within us, not somewhere ‘out there’. From that point on self-realisation and enlightenment are observable phenomena just on the horizon of our self existence, finally.
“One of the most curious things in the structure of our psyche is that we all want to be told because we are the result of the propaganda of ten thousand years. We want to have our thinking confirmed and corroborated by another, whereas to ask a question is to ask it of yourself. What I say has very little value. You will forget it the moment you shut this book, or you will remember and repeat certain phrases, or you will compare what you have read here with some other book – but you will not face your own life. And that is all that matters – your life, yourself, your pettiness, your shallowness, your brutality, your violence, your greed, your ambition, your daily agony
and endless sorrow – that is what you have to understand and nobody on earth or in heaven is going to save you from it but yourself.”
J KRISHNAMURTI
(Freedom from the Known - 121)
By Bruce Fenton












Bruce,
Some very thought provoking and well written ideas. I very much like the idea of ‘putting down the books’ for a day and honestly facing ourselves.
Thank you,
Jessica
www.waveeternalpath.com
— Jessica · Mar 16, 01:56 AM · #
Hello Bruce.
The 432000 years may be more of a metaphor. The base number 432 is part of a very ancient system of sacred numbers found around the world.
http://www.greatdreams.com/432.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/lazarus/lazarus.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/2012.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/anger.htm
— Joseph E. Mason · Mar 21, 07:26 AM · #
Hi Bruce,
just one thing on your article on the Kali Yuga. Well, not really on the article but on the cute little picture of the Hindu Goddess Kaali that accompanies it.
I think you confuse the Kali Yuga, named after the demon called “Kali” with one of the most reverred of the Hindu Godesses “Kaali” (with the loooong “aa” sound as opposed to the short “a” sound of “Kali”), the wife of Lord Shiva in her Paarvati incarnation. She is referred to as the Kaali-mata (mata = mother) and might offend or perplex a hindu reader.
You’d better get rid of the confusion and the picture of the Goddess. It’s one of the demon “Kali” (available from multiple sources including the internet) that you want to put up with your article.
See ya!
Indrajit
— Indrajit · Apr 10, 01:51 AM · #
Indrajit…Lord Shiva must be really handsome because both the demon and his wife are sticking out their tongue at him.
— Belialith · Oct 6, 01:13 AM · #
Hi,
Actually, Kali Yuga is not named after anyone. Kali simply means “dark” or “black”. These are the Dark Ages.
Kali, the demon, is mentioned in a few of the puranas and causes lots of trouble in the Kalki Purana, detailing Vishnu’s final incarnation, but it’s not written anywhere (except Wikipedia) that Kali Yuga is named after him. I personally hope Kali, the goddess, kicks some serious ass in the Kali Yug, but it’s not named after her either.
This is a thoughtful site.
Thanks, Ni
— Ni · Oct 27, 07:00 AM · #
Hi Ni,
I am inclined to agree with you. I am aware that Kali is a Pali term for ‘black’ and am unsure where the link to the Goddess Kali crept in. If anything the clearest link is to Kalki who would supposedly incarnate at the end of the Kali Yuga.
Many thanks
— Bruce · Oct 27, 05:44 PM · #
I think the reason for some confusion, at least about Kalki, is the transliteration of Sanskrit into English. The “L” in Kali, as in the dark demon and the dark goddess and the dark age, is a different letter, and pronounced differently, from the “L” in Kalki and its root, the word “kala”“. Kalki is a shortened form of Kalaki, and kala, means a length of time. Hence, Kalki is taken to mean the destroyer of Time. (This is also a role many Hindu texts say Lord Shiva will play).
Hindu and Pre-Hindu Goddess worshippers all had predictions that in the final days the Mother Goddess, Durga, and/or her sometimes wrathful, black-skinned manifestation, Kali, would take her children back into herself, to digest and “recycle” them if they are beyond redemption, or to keep them safe in her womb for rebirth into the next cycle. The Bengalis, who are ardent Kali worshippers (hence the original name of Calcutta, Kalighat, or “place of Kali”) and who are some of our foremost writers and poets, especially hold this view. So that’s how Kali came into the mix.
Thanks, Ni
— Ni · Oct 29, 11:43 PM · #
Whatever is written here is good enough, but I beg to differ at one point. Kaliyug (Kalyug) is never named after Goddess Kali. It is named after Kalki the 10th avatar of Vishnu. I have read the Puranas, and they clearly mention that at the end of Kaliyug, Kalki Dev will appear on a horse and will destry the earth with famine and fire.
Nostradamus’s predictions also match this 2012 date. He never says although that the world will be destroyed but there will be wars and terror and ultimately someone from the Asian sub-continent will rule the world.
— in · Dec 6, 12:16 AM · #
I have been research to Ramayana that book is “Grace Of God” under proseces, and writing “Sri Rama Ramayana.
in the research proseces to link of mythilogical and Modern science. The science and Puranas to Changes to earth for yugas wise.
— Muthyala Ramakrishna Rao · Dec 6, 01:49 PM · #
Kali she is time,she is the divine energy of our body and manifest as the kundalini!She is the one that sustained our daily activity and at the same time she is the compassionate mother who will never abandon her children.
— Nikki802 · Feb 10, 06:54 PM · #
What are your thoughts on the 2012 as being a destructive cosmic event on a global level that many ancients predicted and prophesised. The Mayan’s predicted that a major cosmic event would occur, the alignment of the center of our galaxy, our sun and earth. If the center of our galaxy is a massive black hole, and massive black holes produce massive amounts of energy, aligning with our sun could produce a sort of wobble or heat blast to earth. Because of the thinning of our ozone if such a heat blast did occur it would cause our planet to heat up incredibly, which would explain the doomsday idea, and all the horrific scenes predicted about 21-12-2012. I was curious if there are any Buddhist texts that depict scenes such as the ones depicted in the Book of Revelations?
— Daniel Cde Baca · Mar 30, 04:38 PM · #
but the age of kaliyuga is 400000 yrs….then what is fact??
— Techworld-Innovating Technology · Apr 26, 01:51 AM · #
don’t worry i am here to save this world. this is my duty,i am god i know every thing what happening around you and me.i created this universe… i know the situation but i want team… now i am in work of taking my weapon sword. it is on the way…it must come…otherwise i have lot of options…believe me
— kali-ki · Apr 26, 04:15 AM · #
Daniel,
I don’t really understand your question, the ancients recorded the Yuga as being 432000 years long. That is a fact.
Techworld,
Nice to know you are handling the issues, I will sleep better tonight lol.
Thanks
Bruce
— Bruce · Apr 28, 09:34 PM · #
What a war we wage against ignorance ey Bruce. Bruce just wrote down some of the most spiritual writings that could nudge a persons ignorant mind and none of you seem to understand that. It’s proof of just how conditioned everyone really is. Try to understand what he said, put the fucken books down! Stop referencing everything as if it was your original thought. Oh, you might offend hindus with that picture, oh, what about the Black Hole, but the yuga’s should be this long, not that long. Pay attention to what’s at hand, YOU! How have you been treating people? What have you done that’s good to contribute to the world for a positive change? Did you give milk to the dying child, or did you put it in a bowl for rats? Who gives a shit about what your religios SYSTEM is! Nobody! Spend more time thinking about what you’ve done in this life that hurt people and how you could have done things in a more positive way and stop squabling about how one letter should have been a capital, or how a chakra should have had 10 petals, not 9. Honestly, who cares, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN TREATING PEOPLE?! KARMA!
— A Messenger · Sep 28, 06:29 AM · #
Beautifully stated message, Bruce, and great Krishnamurti quote at the end, too. Thank you!
— Friday · Oct 24, 12:24 PM · #
i am the one who can communicate with the aliens by spiritual power. i can save human lifes in 2012 by the help of aliens, i am the re-birth of lord vishnu.
— vinodprasad petwal · Dec 1, 01:54 PM · #
You say: “Unfortunately anyone educated in Buddhist lore will know that it is made clear that fully enlightened Buddha’s only arise millions of years apart.” Shakyamuni Buddha Gautama predicted Padmasambhava/Guru Rinpoche(700ad), and other well educated buddhist see Gyalwa Karpapa 17th, Mindrolling Trichen, Tenzin Gyatso, Sakya Trinzing as fully enlightened beings living today among us. Many people achieving the “Ja-Lu” body these days too. <3 Peace
— Dorje · Jan 18, 08:17 AM · #
Technically these are Arahant’s or Bodhisattva not Buddha, the difference is subtle I admit, but there is a difference. If there was no difference we would not bother to refer to Arahant’s or Bodhisattva in the ancient texts. Thank you for the comment though as it reminds people we do have more recent enlightened teachers.
— Bruce · Jan 19, 07:10 PM · #
There are too many zeros in traditional yuga-lengths.
The Kali Yuga is 4320 years in total, & we are rapidly approaching its end!
— sulyen · Mar 6, 09:57 PM · #
Last statement is the real truth we’ve to understand. Thanks for it
— nibaldo · Jun 6, 01:25 PM · #
There can be endless discussions n debates…but the answer shall not be revealed,for it aint time yet…for the answer to disclose itself…people do not understand one thing, live this life, as it happens…for already we are so divided,where we shouldve been one…reching for the truth requires to go beyond the mny layers of divisions we have created between us..such that they may never be consciously one again..this is kali yuga, and time will spiral innto itself till it vanishes, then there shall be the birth of new spiral of time…observe nature and urself..u wil find the answers…research on the golden ratio 1.6, the fractals n the universe, the spirals and fibonacci sequence, try to get the relationbetween everyhing…the pattern…there is a system bhind this madness…too many things to understand, if u want to prove it physically…or else just go deep into urself, detach from everything else, and u shall find it…whichevr way suits u, coz u wil find the answer only when ur supposed to…time will keep spinning at its own pace, creating, sustaining, destroying… big bang, life, big bang, bramha, vishnu, shiva…
— the trident · Jun 23, 11:11 PM · #
‘In’ doesn’t know what he is talking about. Kali is also a male demon who is wide awake in the Kali Yuga. See Srimad Bhagavatam or just google Kali (not the goddess obviously).
— William · Aug 5, 09:49 AM · #
Really…..pathetic to see the messages…. its Koliyuga….Koli is a tremendous negative power who is ruling the present world.Ma Kali is a image of God.The time of Koliyuga is about to end so far I have studied….it wld be anytime in near future by Shri Hari Kalki….according to my knowledge or study he is very much present now in this world and every person who believes in bad principal will be finished….according to my study after cleaning the world he will start Satya Yuga….the period of truth……only he/she will be allowed who not fallen in Koli’s trap….thank u…for more discussion…pls contact my email id :chinmoychatterjee@india.com or chinmoyout@yahoo.com….rgds…..Chinmoy Chatterjee
— Chinmoy Chatterjee · Sep 12, 07:05 PM · #
You have been mislead. Of the four major “religions” you mentioned, there is one with a characteristic that separates itself from the others. One of them is NOT based on works or obedience for reward. One says there is nothing we can do to earn our reward. It is a gift that is given….freely….without us “doing” something. Now, our natural response to this wonderful, life giving gift is obedience.
I’m being very vague here for the sake of the reader, but I think you can understand my point from what I have written. I think you should do more research and try and fully grasp the teachings of each group you mentioned before making it available to non-discerning readers.
Thank you for your time
— TruthSeeker32 · Oct 15, 02:34 AM · #
Thankfully for our sake Bruce is wrong. Read Sri Yukteswars “Holy Science”
A full cycle around source, Brahma, is 24,000 years! one ascending arc (12,000 years) and one descending arc (12,000 years).
We are currently in the ascending Dwapara Yuga (lasting 2,400 years) and we are currently in the Autumal Equinox also called the “Pices-Virgo Age.” I am not sure about the significance of 2012 but one thing is true is that we are ascending back to Brahma, and significant changes in the external and internal worlds are currently happening NOW, if you haven’t noticed. Bless the world! Brahma exists in your hearts..Cheers, RAM
— RAM · Oct 25, 11:49 PM · #
Hi Bruce a wonderful and simple journey towards mind opening and know thy self words that should open the blinkers of our myopic minds and vision and feel the universe within ourselves to begin the journey with, whereby the outer will be then easy to understand. It’s our mindset with various text fundamentals and dogmas written some thousands of years ago by a wise person and largely followed by weak and fearful ones, which then becomes a cult and keeps on growing on such thoughts, fears and above all reprisals if not followed both by human society and unknown super force that we call Gods in different names.This approach sinks man’s ability to think beyond the set and prescribed books that has been ingrained in us from the time a child is born until death. This truly weakens our ability to think beyond. I always felt that the birth and death are natural phenomenon and the void between them is the history made by men!
— Sam · Dec 23, 05:57 PM · #
sir, please half for new temple to start in kali .
— sankar · Dec 31, 08:08 AM · #
The age of the Kali Yuga is just 1200 years not 4,320,000. And we are currently living in Dwapara Yuga which is going to last for another 2088 years.
— jewel · Jan 2, 11:56 AM · #
Look The moast important thing is that it does not matter what is going to happen on the 21st December 2012 because what has to happen will happen and we will come to know about it only when the day occurs.But our duty as human beings is to make the Earth as pure as possible so that we can bring Satyug in Kaliyug.
— Vivek Roy · Jan 3, 06:55 PM · #
Hi Bruce,
I appreciate your efforts to publish the facts. But the word kali is not related to Kaali ( Goddess) . kali is called as evil. Hence pls change the photographs in the above article.
Regards ‘
Rajesh
— rajesh · Jan 22, 05:43 PM · #
Well said Bruce. I agree that if there will be some sort of shift it will probably not be as apparent as we might initially think. I have a tendency to believe that changes usually happen gradually with no specific nor immediate “change point”. The nature of life is subtle and it takes a keen eye to witness these things.
— Dan Barnett · Mar 11, 12:12 AM · #
Hey hey,
No disrespect intended but the Goddess Kali (often spelled Kallee) is not to be confused with the demon Kali of “vice, strife, discord, quarrel, or contention.”
According to some authorities these calculations were made during the beginning of the Kali yuga cycle, with no guidance from wise men of the previous era. The cycles were therefore miscalculated and thank God too…
Doesn’t anyone think it would be a pretty depressing prospect to live in the dark ages for 432,000 years?
Try a little investigating into Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri and the book of Holy Science. Much more sensible view of things.
Just a suggestion ;)
— chy · Apr 1, 08:43 PM · #
It isn’t quite true that Buddhism has no special prophecies describing the present time. In fact, both the mappo theory of 5 × 500 year ages, in the last (most decadent) of which we are now, and the Shambhala prophecies of the Kalachakra pertain to the present time.
— Alexander Duncan · May 10, 10:09 PM · #
Excellent article & thoughts. Thanks.
— m.a. · Aug 2, 01:42 PM · #
The 4,000,000 year plus cycle of the Yugas was corrected a long time ago now. Sri Yukteswar straigthened out this miscalculation over a hundred years ago. Read The Divine Science by Yukteswarji in order to better understand the actual timeline of the Yugas (i.e. 24,000 years not 4 million!).
— Breck · Aug 3, 06:28 PM · #
This visit has been fascinating. Thank you very much for your insights, all of you. It is so good to see that I’m not the only one thinking of these things in these ways.
What impresses me most, I have to say, is that our host has brought up the subject of an evolutionary growth spurt on the horizon for Human Kind. I share that many years ago I read an article in JAMA (Medical Journal) that clinically proved that between 4 and 6 years of age, a chemical switch is flipped that allows us to see that the same amount of liquid fills different containers differently while remaining the same amount. I use this example to point to the process of growing up. We are all, always, still “growing up” Much of our maturity is programmed so. If we can envision all of Human Kind as any individual, growing up in stages, I believe it shows us that another growth spurt is right around the corner.
I pray that I see this happen and I have it on good authority that I will. We will change our values systems, money will be obsolete and there will be zero extra people. Corporeal immortality is not beyond us. Over 7 Billion people are all trying to figure life out and when none do without what we all need, each having our own life on our own terms, such inconveniences as mortality and ignorance will become growing pains of the past.
Thank you, again, for your offering. I’m very pleased to have found your site.
M
— Margret · Sep 18, 05:41 PM · #
If you are interested in a world withut suffering then look at tm and tm-sidhis and Maharishi Mahesh yogi—
— tommie tucke · Nov 9, 06:26 AM · #
Wow….thank you sir, for writing that phenomenal piece!! It brightens my soul to see others heading in the same direction as myself…I see a beautiful light at the end of an awfully dark tunnel. :) Your words couldn’t of been more perfect. Much love to you!!
— enlightenedmisfit · Nov 30, 04:50 PM · #
The picture of “Kali Maa” in the article is wrong, “kali” referred for the kali yuga is the demon, who would create human mind go wild and turn upside down the morality of the mankind which could cause disharmony, misunderstanding, fights, terrorism and hatred which could lead to the end of the world. The Hindu scriptures such as Bhagavad Purana and other Puranas and Vedas indicated, that the end of the world will be at the end of Kali Yuga (432,000 years after the Mahabaratha war which occurred about 5000 years ago). It means, we have about 427,000 years yet come for the doom. Besides that, we haven’t seen our beloved lord Kalki who will be born to Vihnu Yash and Sumathi in Shambala where the capital city called kalappa exist. Therefore, don’t get panicked, but be prepared for the doom of part of the would may be on 21/12/2012 as mentioned earlier, where the influence of Kali is greatest)but not all. On of the great tactic by this Kali is using religion’s ideological speculation among human being to go for war and terrorism. He will establish religion which encourage killing among human beings as duty and pious acts. Fools or ignorant s of those bad karmis will act according to the guidance of this Kali mentally. Even this cult will event reject the yoga practices which needed seriously at this period of kali yuga. To know better about these, please read Srimad Bhagawad Purana, which could lead your soul to higher nature free from the bondage of cycle of rebirth.
— Prahlad Ellutachan · Dec 12, 03:17 PM · #
COMPARITIVE STUDY AND COMPUTATION ON END TIMES BASED ON EASTERN AND WESTERN CALENDERS
Brief History about the reason for these two calenders :
Mayudu gave this calender to the western people because they are devoid of vadic
style of living and they distined to live on the other side of Globe(West). In fact
west of Globe before 6000 years is covered with ice which we call as Ice age.
In the beginning of Kaliyuga there were severe earth quakes occurred due to plate
tectonics and the land was lifted up and scattered from one place.
In this process the river saraswathy went under ground and disappeared.Before that
Land(earth) was in the shape of square and around which there were four corners
covered with oceans. That is why in our vadic mantra we recite that
Chatussagara Paryantham Go Brahmanebhyah Subham Bhaveth”
Bharatha varsham means the entire land in the globe but does not mean ‘India” alone.
Similarly Hinduism is not religion it is general vedic living followed by principles and dogmas
derived from four vadas given by lord brahma and vishnu for the benefit of mankind on earth.
Our ancient seers said that earth is in square because in earlier times it was having four
corners it does not mean that they believed that the globe is square or flat. In fact
they know that earth is a ball that is why they compared the earth with Jambhu Fruit(phala)
In our sankalpa at the time of ritual we used to recite that ‘Jhambhu Dwipe
it means it looks like a ball in the universe and hence we need not feel great about the west that they discovered that the earth is round.
Indeed all these principles and knowledge were given by seers on this earth to the globe
at large in the very ancient age. It shows our seers are very advanced in varous sciences as they
begged thsese knowledge from god by way of tapas or penance.
An effort has been made to sort out the differences between east and west calenders in respect of length of Kaliyuga. Many are unable to establish the relation between
these two calenders and hence there has been a lot of confusion and clumsiness leaving us to land on unreliable ages and in fact no body has clear openion as to which
stage of kaliyuga we belong to. Rather many are studying these calenders as two separate segments claiming theirs’ is the earlier one.
As a matter of fact, the calender indicating the time and ages is one and only one given by Sun god and it is called as Suryasiddantha. This is nothing but
a mathematical calculation of time based on Sun and the same was told to the Mayan people some 5000 years back elaborating the beginning and ending
periods for them(Mayans) and for us also. It is very important to discuss here about the yugantham or end of Kaliyuga. Majority of the people believe that end times
as the priod of loss of life and several natural calamities but it does not end with this alone. End of yuga brings several changes from gross root level and the principles
and dogmas are going to change like, Principles, rules, human thinking, behaviour, habits, and similarly georgraphical change as a result of earthquakes, tsunamis,
storms,volcanoes etc and the a tramendous change in political administration etc. In short a separate new set up will come into existence giving a way to new and fresh
generation. The same thing was already told by Lord Krishna in Maha bharatha that the change of yugas is cammon and inevitable like falling an aged leaf from tree giving way to fresh leaf and the
stem of the tree remain static which is called paramathma and there is nothing new to get astonished about yugantham.
Therefore, there is no need to panic as the end time approaching us and this is a good sign and we must be happy that the kali is going to disappear from this world
and a sathya yuga is going to start which many call as Golden age.
Eastern Method of Caluculation Western Method of Calculation
MAYAN COUNT OF YEARS Mayan Calender
(Based on their calander based on solar years) Start date Long Count Solar Years Months
As per Mayan count calander 394.3(I b’ak’tum)(solar years) is equavilent to 144000 days 11 Aug 3114BC 13.0.0.0.0
They predicted that the completion of years like 394.3 for 13 times gives an end to yugam 13 Nov 2720bc 1.0.0.0.0 394 3
if you compute based on their table we arrive at the following figure: 16 Feb 2325BC 2.0.0.0.0 394 3 21 May 1931BC 3.0.0.0.0 394 3
Kaliyuga started as per maya calender 11 Aug 3114 8 11 23 Aug 1537BC 4.0.0.0.0 394 3
To arrive the below figure add no of years 2011 9 26 Nov 1143BC 5.0.0.0.0 394 3
No of years so far completed (394.3*13) 5125 9 28 Feb 748BC 6.0.0.0.0 394 3
(add difference of days from the beginning) 3 21 3 June 354BC 7.0.0.0.0 394 3 5 Sep 41 BC 8.0.0.0.0 394 3
Total comes to = 5126 i.e, 2012 December 21 days Mayan count of years 5200 9 Dec 435 AD 9.0.0.0.0 394 3 5125.9 3114 11-Aug 13 Mar 830AD 10.0.0.0.0 394 3 2012 21-Dec 15 June 1224AD 11.0.0.0.0 394 3 5126 18 Sep 1618AD 12.0.0.0.0 394 3 21 Dec 2012AD 13.0.0.0.0 394 3 5122 39
No of years = 5125 and 9 Months Solar years 5122
Required no of years = 5126 Conversion of months into years 3 3
Difference = 81 days (will be arrived at by adding the left out days from the begining) (39/12) 5125
In fact this calculation was given to these people by Mayudu who obtained the same calculation
from lord sun and hence the name given for the above calender as mayan calender.
INDIAN COUNT OF YEARS
(Based on Suryasiddhantha)
Calculation of (divine) years (Based on solar years i.e., earths movement around sun)
Krita yugam 4800
Tretayugam 3600
Dwapara yugam 2400
Kaliyugam 1200
Total yugam 12000
Note that above years are divine years to convert them into
human years we have to apply formula as stated in the
Bhavishyapuran by Vedavyasa “ yugam bhavete vatsara panchakani” means
1 divine year is equivilent to 5 human years
After converting the above divine years applying the above rule
yuga calculation is as follows:
Yugam Divine yrs Human yrs
Krita yugam 4800 24000
Tretayugam 3600 18000
Dwapara yugam 2400 12000
Kaliyugam 1200 6000
Total yugam 12000 60000 Divinedays Human Days Convert into H months Convert into H years Convert into D years Human Age in Human Age in Distribution of Human age (as believed (30daysmonth) (12months ayear) Divine years Human years according to Planetery periods by many (as per Bhavishya in kali yuga(asper Astrology) Years pandits as Puranam) Sun 6 years)*** Moon 10
Krita yugam 1728000 8640000 288000 24000 4800 30 150 Mars 7
Tretayugam 1296000 6480000 216000 18000 3600 28 140 Rahu 18
Dwaparayugam 864000 4320000 144000 12000 2400 26 130 Jupiter 16
Kaliyugam 432000 2160000 72000 6000 1200 24 120 Saturn 19
Total yugam 4320000 21600000 720000 60000 12000 108 540 Mercury 17 Kethu 7 Venus 20
Note:(Applied ‘yugam bhavet vatsara panchakani’ principle) Total 120
H’ stands for Human and ‘D’ stands for divine
Based on the above calculation we will compute the age of Brahma and total life of the earth
Yugam Divine years Human years Age of Brahma
One Maha yuga 12000 60000 This is also called
Day of Brahma*(1000*12000) 12000000 60000000 1000 divine years One Udaya Kalpam Creation
Night of Brahma 12000000 60000000 1000 divine years One Raatri Kalpam Pralayam(distrctn)
One Day(day&night) 24000000 120000000 2000 divine years Oneday for brahma
Month of brahma(30) 720000000 3600000000 60000divine years One month for brahma
Year of Brahma(12) 8640000000 43200000000 720000divine years One Year for brahma
Total age of brahma(100) 864000000000’ 4320000000000’ 72000000divineyears Total Age of brahma
100 years
Therefore the age of earth is the age of Brahma as shown above. Hence earth will remain for the above said period
It is to be noted that during udaya Kalpa only the creation will be done by Brahma I.e,1st 50 years out of his 100 years of life
i.,432000000000 divine years are only for creation and the rest half for distrucition or Kshaya kalpam
in nut shell 4320 crore divine years is the earth’s life i.e,21,600 crore human years is the earths life
but the doomsdays or pralayams occur at the end of one yuga, manvantara,Kalpa and Brahmapralayam
The occurance of pralayams is as follows
Name of pralayam yuga Nature of change
Avantara pralayam At the end of each phase or pada and this is very small pralayam based on the planetary movements within each yuga.
Yuga pralayam At the end of krita, Treta, Dwapara and Kaliyuga Rearrangement of planets, geographical location,atmosphere,principles,new generation.
Manvantara pralayam At the end of 71 Mahayugas(857142.8572DY OR 4285714.286HY) Distruction of life,planets, stars,devatas in all locas but the seeds will remain except Brahma
Kalpa Pralayam At the end of 14 Manvantaras(12000000DY OR 60000000HY) Total end of creation, 14 lokas,devatas,planets,stars except Brahma
Brahmapralayam At the end of 100 years of all kalpas(udaya & Raatri) In this pralayam all stars,planets, galaxies,all locas,devatas,vishnu,siva,rudra,brahma enterintopralayam (4320 Crore divine years or 21600 crore Human years)
Divine years Human years
One Manvantaram 71mahayugas 852000 4260000
14 Manvantaras 1000 Mahayugas 12000000 60000000 Month of Brahma – 30 Kalpas
Name of manvantaram Mahayugas Divine years Human years Name of Udaya Kalpa Name of Raatrikalpa Divine years Human years
Swayambhuva 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Swethavaraha Kalpa Narasimhakalpa 24000000 120000000
Swarochisha 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Neelalohita kalpa Samadhikalpa 24000000 120000000
Uttama 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Vamadevakalpa Aagneyakalpa 24000000 120000000
Taamasa 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Radhantarakalpa Vishnujakalpa 24000000 120000000
Raivatha 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Rauravakalpa Saurakalpa 24000000 120000000
Chakshusha 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Pranakalpa Somakalpa 24000000 120000000
Vaivashvata 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Bruhatkalpa Bhavanakalpa 24000000 120000000
Suryasavarni 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Kandarbakalpa Saptamavikalpa 24000000 120000000
Dakshasavarni 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Satyakalpa Vaikuntahkalpa 24000000 120000000
Brahma Savarni 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Eesanakalpa Aarchishakalpa 24000000 120000000
Dharmasavarni 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Dhyanakalpa Valmikakalpa 24000000 120000000
Rudrasavarni 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Sarswathakalpa Vairajakalpa 24000000 120000000
Bhaumasavarni 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Udanakalpa Gowrikalpa 24000000 120000000
Bhauthyasavarni 71.42857143 857142.8572 4285714.286 Garuda kalpa Maheswarakalpa 24000000 120000000
One Day of Brahma 1000 12000000 60000000 Kurmakalpa Paithrukakalpa 24000000 120000000
One Night of Brahma 1000 12000000 60000000 One month for Brahma 360000000 1800000000
the above is called one udaya kalpa and ratri kalpa, rest of calculation shown in the above table. Divine years Human Years
So far there are 27 mahayugas in Vaivashvata Manu were completed i.e,(27*12000DY) 324000 1620000
We are at present 28th mahayuga in Vaivashvata Manvantara
Completion of Krita Yuga 4800 24000
Completion of Tretayuga 3600 18000
Completion of Dwaparayuga 2400 12000
Present kaliyuga (886Y+3102BC+2011AD)fag end 5999 1199.8 5999
So far completed years in Vaivashvata Manvantara 335999.8 1679999
It is very important to note that we are running at present yuga sandhi after completion of 4 padas(phases) and hence at the time of rituals
it is to be mentioned as ‘Kaliyuge chathurtha paade’ each pada is calculated as 1st pada 2400 years,2nd pada 1800 years,3rd pada 1200 years and 4th pada 600 years
IT SHOULD BE STRICTLY NOTED THAT EVEN DIVINE OR HUMAN YEARS IN EVERY YUGA SHOULD ONLY BE IN THOUSENDS BUT NO IN LACKS
Many pandits of various almanecs are mislead with years in stead of days stated in the Suryasidhantha
here we have taken human days i.e, earth’s rotation on itself as the day is counted from one sunrise to till another sunrise.
Suryasidhanta stated that one circle of earth around sun is one human year and five of such rounds make one divine year
and twelve of such five rounds are called set of 60 years for which names of years were also given
(in nutshell we also can get the above figure as 360*human years 6000=2160000 and in the same way rest of yugas)
Accourding to hindu puranas real Kaliyugam started with the disappearance of Lord Srikrishna
i.e., 3102 Bc though theoretically kaliyugam started from 3988 BC due to the Lord’s
influence it did not play vital rule
Taking the above info from our puranas kaliyuga started actually (BC) 3988
Add No of years passed after christ 2011
To complete no of human years, no of years required 1
Total Kaliyugam 6000
Difference between Eastern calender and western calender (6000-5126)=874 (3988-3102) 886
and actually kaliyuga started letarally 886 years before lord krishna
but due to his incarnation it did not appear on earth for this period.
It is to be noted that the so called western people are called
Mlechas/Gurund and their yugam started from 3114 i.e., after
the commencement of real kaliyugam or before disappearance of
Lord Srikrishna from this earth and hence the difference
in other words one cycle of Jupiter i.e, 12 years should be
the difference between 3114bc(western kaliyugam) and 3102bc(eastern kaliyugam) 125 761
Therefore, the Kaliyuga is going to start ending with effect from 21st December, 2012 and Age of Lord Srikrishna 125
this will run upto 21st December, 2024 i.e, 12 years to fulfill the gap of 12 years
as stated above. More over the list of kaliyuga emperors, maharajahs, etc and their years of administration
and subsequent british invasion were completed and also the administration age of present political
rulers are also going to end very shortly and after that nothing was stated in our
puranas and this will also give an evidence for the end of Kaliyuga and appearance
of tenth incarnation of lord vishnu as Kalki.
Hence both the studies of computations on Kaliyuga agree with each other fortifying the fact
that the process of change of yuga is going to be triggered effectively from 2012
— J Krishnamurthy · Mar 9, 06:16 AM · #