Lloyd PyeStar People & Alien Hybrids

As a researcher of world mysteries and the supernatural before taking any great notice of the 2012 subject I was very pleased to make contact with Lloyd Pye.

Though his work may be new too many in the world today, I personally became aware of his quest almost ten years ago. Whatever unkind things may have been said about his work I doubt there are many people who would have acted as professionally and honestly if walking in his shoes.

Lets just start with two points for clarification.

Lloyd Pye has been accused of simply trying to profit by taking advantage of gullible people regarding the purported skull. Yet after ten years all that has happened is that he has been personally bankrupted by the costs involved. I think that he would of chucked it away by now if money was the goal.

Secondly I have seen Lloyd Pye accused of being over the top and eccentric regarding his enthusiasm for the Starchild skull project. My response would be to ask other exactly how they would carry themselves if they were 100% convinced they had located an alien artefact?

Rather than me detail the whole story Lloyd has provided me with some recent interviews and articles that give a broad analysis of the background story and current undertakings. At the end of this post is a link to his recent e-book which offers a summary of the facts and figures in an easy to follow format. The money from this is to go towards the cost of final genome mapping from the biological material to close the case once and for all.

For those with paid up subscriptions to RedIceCreations please check out this two part conversation with Henrik Palmgren

Below are a recent interview and a newspaper article that was pulled at the lost moment without explanation or so much as an apology. The notes in brackets are added later by Lloyd to clarify some points. There is also another article link he sent me worth visiting here.


Starchild SkullDAILY MAIL ARTICLE BY DANNY PENMAN, PhD

This was scheduled to appear in England's Daily Mail newspaper (6 million readers per day) on June 24, 2009, but after Dr. Penman submitted it, it was spiked. The Daily Mail has not yet provided a reason why this happened, but at least it is now available on the internet. Please feel free to share it.

It is worth mentioning that Dr. Penman, a Ph.D. in biochemistry, is familiar with science, scientific terminology, and the scientific method for establishing credibility. He carried out an extensive analysis of the Starchild material before writing his article. Even so, he made a handful of errors that in no way detract from the overall high quality of his work, but which show that even good researchers with the best intentions can initiate errors. Whether such errors are well-meant, as Dr. Penman's surely were, or deliberately malicious, as the writings of hardcore skeptics tend to be, a great deal of absurd garbage about the Starchild has become rampant on the internet. Now when you find such garbage, please try to consider the sources.
 

Is the Starchild Skull really from a human-alien hybrid?

Written by Danny Penman  

THE DARK and forbidding storm clouds had been building all afternoon. It hadn’t rained for months in this dusty corner of north west Mexico and the sky promised a deluge of biblical proportions.

As the wind whipped at her skirt, young Maria made a momentous decision. She would take cover in the entrance tunnel of the old copper mine. Maria shivered as she remembered the stories of strange creatures that stalked the abandoned mines, but she had no choice. She needed shelter from the approaching storm.

With a huge intake of breath to fortify her quailing spirit, Maria plunged into the tunnel. Before long, the outside world was no more than a pin-prick of light behind her. She fumbled in her pocket for a box of matches and struck one against the wall. For a few moments, the whole tunnel was bathed in an eerie phosphorescent glow. And then she saw a spine-chilling sight, a child’s skeletal hand was poking upwards from the dusty floor. She was horrified and mesmerised in equal measure.

Maria crouched down and began brushing aside the thick layer of sand that covered the cave floor. She quickly unearthed a tiny boney arm, then a torso - and finally, a skull. A bizarrely misshapen skull that looked like that of an alien.

The skull stared at her with huge blank eye-sockets that were at least three times bigger than normal. The almond-shaped head was huge and must have housed an enormous brain. Equally strange were the tiny holes where the ears, nose and mouth should have been. Maria could only imagine what the creature had looked like when it was alive. But one thing was certain, it clearly wasn’t human.

[I'll cover the opening sequence in one go. First, no evidence of any kind suggests this scenario happened. However, it is a logical place to start. I begin my book about it, "The Starchild Skull," with a much more extensive, but overall rather similar, opening sequence.

With that said, let me also add that the Starchild's eye sockets were definitely not "three times bigger" than normal, as described in the paragraph immediately above. If anything they are slightly smaller than normal and of a radically different shape than normal human eye sockets.

Let me further add that when the skull was found in the early 1930s, "Maria" would not assume (nor would anyone else) that a misshapen skull was an "alien." Aliens in the UFO sense were not known in 1930. Describing it this way is for dramatic effect, and I give Dr. Penman full credit for that, but it is not factually accurate.

Lastly, it is impossible to say, as in the final paragraph above, what the nose and mouth would have looked like. We know the ear holes are externally normal from a size perspective, though they are placed lower and more forward than normal. And the inner ears are, for reasons we don't yet understand, twice the size of normal human inner ears.]

Maria’s discovery of the skull, which only came to light ten years ago, has sparked one of the strangest mysteries of modern times. It has raised the hackles of UFO conspiracy theorists and academics alike. All are asking the same question. Is the ‘Starchild Skull’ from an alien or merely the remains of a cruelly deformed child?

Lloyd Pye, an archeological researcher from Florida, has spent the past decade investigating the skull’s secrets and is currently on a lecture tour of the UK [This was written in mid-June of 2009, when I was indeed on a lecture tour of Europe, which included three stops in the UK in late June. This is why the Daily Mail agreed to publish the article on the 24th, so it could provide some push for my lectures in Nottingham and Leeds.] to explain his remarkable findings. Lloyd has become convinced that the Starchild Skull is from an alien creature known as a ‘Grey’.

The Greys are the archetypal aliens that featured in such films as Close Encounters and the X-Files. UFO researchers say they are about the same size as a seven-year-old human child but have an enormous almond shaped head with piercing black eyes. They lack ears and tongues and communicate via telepathy. The Greys are variously described as being cruel and cunning, or wise and compassionate.  

“Anyone with an understanding of basic human anatomy and that of the Greys would make the same staggering connection,” says Lloyd Pye. “They have no choice.”

“There are at least two dozen major physiological differences between this skull and that of a human. We’ve done genetic tests on the skull. The creature’s father was not human although his mother certainly was. My hunch is that the creature was a human-alien hybrid.”

In the face of such an outlandish claim, one’s first reaction is to dismiss it as pure hokum. But could the Starchild Skull really be that of an alien?

Lloyd’s theory is gathering a surprising amount of support from scientists and doctors. Dr Ted Robinson, a Canadian craniofacial surgeon who trained at the Mount Vernon Centre for Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery, Middlesex, says that Lloyd Pye may indeed be correct. Dr Robinson spent twelve months studying the skull using some of the most powerful scientific tests available and probed its secrets using the latest brain scanning techniques.

“This skull is unique,” says Dr Robinson. “It’s not the skull of a deformed child. This is my area of expertise and I can state categorically that this skull’s shape is not the result of a human abnormality. I have also sought out the expertise of leading neurologists, paediatricians and surgeons. Every one has agreed with me. It’s not a deformed human skull. It is something else entirely.

“The Starchild Skull is a total enigma. Maybe it is the skull of an alien. I simply don’t know.”

Despite a decade of intensive efforts, scientists have been unable to find evidence to either confirm or refute Lloyd’s claims. At every turn, the Starchild Skull thwarts their best efforts. It’s almost as if it’s mocking them from the grave.

It is clear that the creature died at least 900 years ago. That’s interesting but hardly earth-shattering. What is strange, though, is its remarkable degree of preservation. It seems to be largely untouched by time. American and Canadian researchers have now discovered why. The skull is not made from normal bone but from an unknown material that is far stronger and lighter.

“The material is ridiculously strong,” says Dr Jason Eshleman, Senior Research Director of Trace Genetics in Davis, California. “It’s like nothing I’ve ever come across before. It’s entirely natural but half the weight of bone and twice as strong. It’s very odd.”

To make matters even more intriguing, the skull appears to be reinforced with tough red fibres [Dr. Penman is confused between the red residue found in the Starchild's cancellous holes, and the extremely resilient fibers (U.S. spelling) found woven through the actual matrix of the bone. Neither the fibers nor the residue are known in any other animal on earth.] from another unknown material. These have never been seen before in any earthly creature. Researchers have also discovered numerous inexplicable details in the Starchild Skull that are not found in humans or in any of our closest ape relatives.

“You can’t find any part of the skull that’s the same as the human equivalent,” says Lloyd. “We’ve documented 24 distinct physical differences between the Starchild skull and that of a typical human. Everything from its overall shape to the dimensions of the skull, inner ear, eye sockets and neck are completely different.”

This evidence is, no doubt, very interesting and suggestive but it hardly proves that the Starchild is an alien. Lloyd does, however, have an ace up his sleeve that leaves even me grasping for an explanation.

Several years ago Lloyd commissioned a series of genetic paternity tests on the skull from one of the most respected scientists in the field. Dr Jason Eshleman, of Trace Genetics, is renowned for his ability to extract and analyse the DNA from bodies that are thousands of years old. If you give him a 5,000 year old chip of tooth or bone, the chances are he’ll be able to give you a complete genetic run-down of the person it came from. If you’re lucky, he’ll be able to tell you the colour of his hair and eyes too.

Dr Eshleman spent months studying the skull and came to a startling conclusion: the Starchild had a human mother but there was no trace of an earthly father. This could be because his tests were not sensitive enough to detect the father’s genes – which is unlikely - or he did not have a human father. Because of the startling implications of these results, Dr Eshleman ran his tests six times. And every time he produced the same result.

“If dad was a normal human, one of those six attempts would have proven it,” says Lloyd. “Only one stark conclusion can be drawn. Dad was not a human.”

Of course, sceptics will say there is another conclusion to be drawn: that Lloyd is a well-meaning eccentric who has lost contact with reality. But those who have worked with him say this is wrong.

“Lloyd is clearly not nuts,” says Dr Eshleman. “He has been perfectly responsible in the way that he has researched and analysed the skull. Make of the results what you will.”

So what are we to make of them? I have spent many years exploring South America and I must confess that Lloyd’s findings agree with legends that extraterrestrials periodically visit the region. Indeed, wherever you travel in south and central America, there are myths concerning a race of aliens who descended to earth and taught the native Indians the skills necessary to build an advanced civilisation.

These legends were popularised in Erich Von Daniken’s Chariots of the Gods. In this, you will recall, he claimed that extraterrestrials helped build the magnificent temples and pyramids of south and central America. The ‘star-people’ also taught the indigenous tribes highly advanced mathematics. This allowed them to calculate solar eclipses with unprecedented accuracy and to produce a calendar that was only surpassed by ours in the 20th century.

Ancient south American tribes also worshipped Gods that resembled extraterrestrials. I have seen an ancient stone carving in Tiwanacu, Bolivia, that appears to depict an astronaut in a spacesuit ascending into space inside a rocket. The parallels are startling and have to be seen to be believed. Of course, a single carving can be dismissed as a fluke but there are numerous similar examples across the Americas. Some even depict what can only be described as ‘Grey-type’ aliens wearing space suits.

There has even been speculation that the famous Nazca Lines in Peru, which can only be seen from the air, are actually landing strips for alien spacecraft. Whilst I have my doubts, it has to be admitted that these lines are remarkably similar to NASA’s emergency landing fields carved into the desert for its fleet of space shuttles.

But most intriguing of all are the legends told by the Indians of the Copper Canyon region of Mexico, where the Starchild Skull was discovered. The area is alive with myths concerning a race of ‘star-people’ who periodically arrive in spaceships to impregnate the women of the area. These extraterrestrials then return eight years later to carry off the resulting children. [This information comes from the "Star Being" legends chronicled by, among others, Dr. Paula Gunn Allen, a recently deceased emeritus professor from UCLA. The Star Beings would return for the hybrids, it is said, at any time after they were 5, 6, 7, or 8.] To this day, many of the women are petrified of having their children abducted by aliens – or their daughters impregnated by them.

But many respected investigators are far from convinced. Dr David Clarke, a UFO researcher at Sheffield Hallam University, says: “I don’t believe that there’s any credible evidence that there’s been any contact between humans and extraterrestrials let alone interbreeding.

“Stories like this are interesting but also quite demeaning to us as a species. They claim that all of the amazing achievements made by our ancestors in the fields of engineering, astronomy, mathematics and navigation came from aliens. They say that aliens gave us the technology to build Stonehenge and the pyramids and the knowledge to navigate primitive ships across the world’s oceans. I think that does humanity a great disservice.”

Whilst this attitude is undoubtedly a reasonable one, it’s also worth bearing in mind the words of Sherlock Holmes: “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

Star Child Skull

IS THE "SMOKING GUN" OF UFO/ALIEN RESEARCH IN HAND?

By Dan McWilliams

Today the field of UFO/alien research is little different from the imaginary
world of Harry Potter. A small minority of "wizards" accept at least the
possibility, if not the reality, of otherworldly existence. Wizards are
opposed by a vast majority of "muggles" with attitudes about the unknown or
unacceptable that range from vapid disinterest to seething outrage. The
middle ground is a contentious war zone because both sides lack definitive
proof of their position. Wizards have countless examples of "almost" solid
proof, while muggles insist that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary
proof."

Well, guess what? The required extraordinary proof is now claimed to be a
proverbial "smoking gun" in the hands of researcher Lloyd Pye, a wizard
well-known to fans around the world from many appearances on television
shows and radio interviews. Pye presents his extraordinary claims and
defends them in a new eBook called "The Starchild Skull Essentials." (Free
sample available at: www.starchildproject.com/starchild_ebook.htm.)

"I've been collecting information about the Starchild skull for ten years
now," Pye explains. "Piece by piece from here and there, never actually
seeing it as a congealed whole. But when I sat down to write this new eBook,
gathering it all together into one tight knot just blew me away. I realized
as never before how incredibly powerful the totality of it is. It actually
establishes 'proof' that the Starchild could not possibly have been a human
deformity. It really is the 'smoking gun' of UFO and alien research."

Pye's report of extraordinary evidence to support his extraordinary claim is
certain to be fighting words for the mass of muggles who tend to attack the
credibility of anyone who challenges their reigning paradigms, so Pye knows
his assertions will be met head-on. "Oh, sure, scientists and other
defenders of the mainstream faith will balk at first," Pye acknowledges.
"But this time they have no leg to stand on. This time they lose, we win."

His assurance stems from the fact that genetics is at the heart of his
proof. "DNA analysis is utterly precise," he explains, "as precise as math.
In fact, genetics is the mathematics of biology. It leaves absolutely no
room for argument by anyone. If 50 people say a person committed a crime and
DNA says they didn't, they'll walk. That's the power of genetics, to provide
us with the amazing proof we can now unleash on an unsuspecting world."

Admittedly, the mass of photographic evidence in Pye's eBook can appear
overwhelming to untrained eyes because it all seems so convincing. "It's
convincing because it's real," he insists. "There is no smoke and mirrors
here, no photoshopping, nothing but unaltered photo after photo after photo
proving again and again exactly how far away the Starchild skull was from
normal humans. Taken as a whole, stacked up like cordwood, these facts can
be intimidating, but they are also undeniable. I guarantee they are."

Pye's claim of proof of at least one alien being living and dying on earth
900 years ago is as extraordinary as they come, but he is surprisingly
sanguine about it. "I've known since 2003, when a primer-based DNA test was
performed on the Starchild's DNA. That test established that it had a human
mother and a non-human father, but in 2003 we couldn't prove how far away
the father was from a normal human. Without that evidence we were hamstrung,
unable to make any definitive claims about it. Now, though, all of that has
changed. Now we have a test that can prove our case beyond any scientific
doubt."

That test is an extremely sophisticated DNA analysis technique pioneered by
454 Life Sciences of Branford, Connecticut. It permits the recovery of an
entire genome, which is all of the DNA strands of a living being. In humans
that is roughly 3.0 billion base pairs. "What we'll do," Pye explains, "is
compare every base pair in the Starchild's DNA with those in humans, chimps,
gorillas, and even Neanderthals, which are nearly sequenced right now. When
we can do that, we'll be able to show as precisely as a mathematical formula
exactly how far away the Starchild's DNA is from all of the others."

How far does Pye expect the Starchild's DNA to stray from normal humans? His
answer is blunt and volatile. "It can't be anywhere near humans. Chimps are
3% different, while gorillas are 5%. Neanderthals could be anywhere between
chimps and humans. Yet when you see the evidence of Starchild differences
stacked up like cordwood in the new eBook, you realize it has to surpass a
gorilla! The Starchild is not even close to being human."

This statement seems impossible because the Starchild's DNA proves it had a
human mother, but Pye has a surprising answer for that. "Most people think
hybrids have to be the result of a sexual union. That's not true.
Sophisticated genetic engineering can create a being with alien nuclear DNA
transplanted into a human female egg, and the resulting being would have
human mitochondrial DNA from its mother and nuclear DNA from either an alien
father, or even a pair of alien parents. In genetics anything is possible."

Is Lloyd Pye correct in making his extraordinary claims? Does he have the
requisite extraordinary proof? He says he does and he says it is available
for anyone to evaluate in his new eBook, "Starchild Skull Essentials." If
anyone is inclined to take him up on his challenge, he offers a free sample
at www.starchildproject.com/starchild_ebook.htm.


Dan McWilliams is a long-time researcher into UFO and related phenomena. He
lives and works in Santa Barbara, California


The Starchild e-book is available to buy or sample by clicking this link.


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